I've just been reading an article on the hope not hate site. Readers of this blog will know that I have very little time for HnH. They are opportunists who shout racism at anybody who doesn't agree with their left wing pro mass immigration and multicultural view of the world.
They say that Tommy Robinson is making a comeback to street activism. This time in the guise of pegida.
For anyone who isn't familiar with pegida. This organisation is not to disimlar to the EDL, except they are European wide.
They believe that Europe is in danger of been islamified.
Are they wrong. Is this all just racist hype. Is he swivel eyed loon and a bigot?
The title of this post is perhaps misleading I'm not really here to defend him. What I'm trying to convey is that is he right to be concerned ?
Let's look at the evidence.
The terrorism, well that needs no explanation. We're all familiar with that.
No one can have escaped all the press coverage of grooming gangs -predominantly Muslim. To be very accurate most were of Pakistan origin. No rational person can not be concerned how this was allowed to happen.
Then there's the hundreds perhaps thousands of young British girls been sent abroad to suffer the most barbaric cruelty of female genital mutilation.
Mosques. Many people believe that many of the radicals are nurtured in British mosques. How much truth is in this is very hard to uncover.
One article will tell us this. Another will tell us its happening in British universities. Again how is the average Brit supposed to know the truth.
Britain should be secular. Any civilsed country should be secular. Christianity has been dissapearing for years and good riddance to it. But now we have other religous buildings popping up all over the place. Despite what many on the left say ,religion causes division. It forms barriers between neighbours and prevents integration. Anyone who flatly denies this is bascially seeing the world through rose coloured glasses.
Face veils in the name of religion. Yes they cause division-the them and us mentality. How the hell can a person integrate if you can't see their face. Many muslim women have no choice but to wear the face coverings. Not all but many. How the hell is a person supposed to know which is which.
It's shame full the amount of attacks that are now happening to Muslim women because of this distrust that has built up between communities. How the hell does attacking a defenceless woman in a face veil stop islamifiaction. These attacks need to stop and the offenders prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
Halal Meat. There's not a single piece of evidence to suggest that halal is more humane than stunning.
In fact it's the very opposite. There has been many papers written on how stunning is less cruel.
Personally, I'm a vegan, so I'd like to see stunning gone as well. I would like to see a meat free world, but that's a totally different argument.
Suffice to say if we are going to eat animals (for now) they should be raised and killed as humanely as possible.
So why is TR not allowed to voice these concerns ?
Well it depends on his motives.
The BNP use exactly the same reasons to protest at muslims in the UK. Do they care about animals or young girls suffering fgm or honour killings.
No they dont.
If they cared about animals they wouldn't have openly supported fox hunting at many countryside meetings.
Fgm and honour killings. Again they don't care because it happens to non white girls. Girls that they dont class as British.
So' I don't know tommy Robinson, never met him, never shared a communication with him so I can't defend his reasons for protesting.
If he is protesting because he does not want to see his country and ANY of its citizens suffering the indignity otf religously motivated barbarity or cruelty to both animals and humans I salute him.
If however his motivation is from a bigotted xenophobic and racist position ( which I admit I don't think is the case) he should not be listened to.
But as usual the first thing to frame any protest or debate on islam is-oh they must be racist to speak out.
The country and indeed the world needs to admit there is a problem with islam. Muslims need to admit there is a problem with islam.
We need to stop this catch all accusation of racist or isamlophobic.
When you stop people questioning or criticising islam they will drift to the fringes where they feel that they can be heard.
Please stop this blanket defence of islam and perhaps the likes of pegida would never get a foothold on European streets.
Myself, I don't care where people are from or the colour of their skin. But I do care if they believe in a backwards ideology that sets them apart from the modern civilsed world, and we need to admit that many Muslims do. That's not racist to say that.
Finally- as always-what drives people to supprt the likes of the BNP, EDL or Pegida is perceptions. The media and our politicians have to take some of the blame for this.
How the hell is a person to know what is the truth!.
All we hear is about islamic practices and barbarity. Then we see our so called leaders lining up to praise islam as a peaceful religion. Its not hard to see why people have no idea what the hell is going on.
Perceptions helped the BNP grow. They could also help Pegida take route in Britian
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Tuesday, 1 December 2015
Saturday, 31 October 2015
Just a short one about the BNP
I very rarely check the far right sites anymore. They are as they say.....A busted flush. But after watching the documentray last week on Britain first I thought I would check them out. After all its worth looking at their sites just for the comedic value.
So anything been happening ?
Well to be honest not really. Britain first and Paul Golding are still trying to set themselves up as a Christian militia vowing to fight islam.
I wonder when Golding got religion?
The few times I met him he was just southern wide boy blagging his way through the BNP.
Griffing kicked him out for getting a bit full of himself. Its past history now that Griffin didn't like his leadership questioned.
Now all of a sudden Golding is running about with a bible in his hand saying the power of Christ compels him to fight.
hmm when he was in the BNP it was well known that it was the power of cocaine that compelled him.
Still, being the saviour of christiantiy must pay well, he ain't half piled the weight on. It must be all that communion wine and biscuits.
Speaking of Griffin I wonder where he is now since his beloved party was taken off him. He keeps reappearing around Europe trying desperately to reignite his -saviour of the white race- status!!! But he's not having much luck.
But the best, the absolute best bit of BNP news is that the party has a new vice chairman.
One time drug dealer,, bouncer and all round Walter Mitty is now holding that position.
I think the BNP are following the labour model. Let's put the most unelectable people in charge, what can go wrong.
Previously Jefferson was in charge of the accounts. No mean feat for a man who can barely count.
Now he is second in command. which is not really that good when you consider there's only a few hundred members. Most of them will be the gullible sods who enrolled as life members. Apparently even if you leave the party your still a life member. So in real terms if you take away the life members Jeffersons promotion to number 2 is even less impressive.
I suppose a less compassionate person would draw the distinction that he is now a number two...but I wouldn't dream of doing that
So anything been happening ?
Well to be honest not really. Britain first and Paul Golding are still trying to set themselves up as a Christian militia vowing to fight islam.
I wonder when Golding got religion?
The few times I met him he was just southern wide boy blagging his way through the BNP.
Griffing kicked him out for getting a bit full of himself. Its past history now that Griffin didn't like his leadership questioned.
Now all of a sudden Golding is running about with a bible in his hand saying the power of Christ compels him to fight.
hmm when he was in the BNP it was well known that it was the power of cocaine that compelled him.
Still, being the saviour of christiantiy must pay well, he ain't half piled the weight on. It must be all that communion wine and biscuits.
Speaking of Griffin I wonder where he is now since his beloved party was taken off him. He keeps reappearing around Europe trying desperately to reignite his -saviour of the white race- status!!! But he's not having much luck.
But the best, the absolute best bit of BNP news is that the party has a new vice chairman.
One time drug dealer,, bouncer and all round Walter Mitty is now holding that position.
I think the BNP are following the labour model. Let's put the most unelectable people in charge, what can go wrong.
Previously Jefferson was in charge of the accounts. No mean feat for a man who can barely count.
Now he is second in command. which is not really that good when you consider there's only a few hundred members. Most of them will be the gullible sods who enrolled as life members. Apparently even if you leave the party your still a life member. So in real terms if you take away the life members Jeffersons promotion to number 2 is even less impressive.
I suppose a less compassionate person would draw the distinction that he is now a number two...but I wouldn't dream of doing that
Wednesday, 19 August 2015
Well that’s it then I’ve gone full liberal.
A few years ago when I started writing this blog I was
still organising my thoughts.
I had gone from what I would have considered myself as being liberal, to joining the right wing in the form of the BNP.
I’ve explained how this occurred. I got angry at a very unjust system. I had gotten divorced and fought for years to get equal rights as a father. I refused to give into a system that automatically sides with the woman when it comes to children. I have to point out that I’m not one of these bleeding heart men who think men no longer have rights. That’s absolute rubbish; I’m referring just to the cases of inequality when it comes to a breakup and the woman can call the shots when it comes to the children- even if she is a terrible mother and has no maternal instinct whatsoever- as in my case.
So this got me angry I think I started to see faults within
the system that were not necessarily there. Anyways’ that’s already been covered
in previous posts. But it did set me on a journey to get to know myself. A
journey where I would really think long and hard about what gets me angry! A quest to try and find out even if something
does get me angry am I being rational.
Well no it wasn’t! I never turned into one of them people mentioned previously – a conspiracy theorist.
Someone who believes that everything that happens in society is some clandestine plot to put us into servitude and imprison us all, but I honestly can see how it can lure some people in!
The final version was that it was a social experiment to destroy the family and destroy society.
Yes I know they all sound ridiculous but we are talking about the far right here.
Once the box has been opened, once you see what is wrong with the world and how unjust it is you can’t just close the lid again. You can’t unsee what you have you have seen. You can’t erase some injustice that you know exists. Please don’t misunderstand this statement. The BNP taught me nothing- well except about me. The BNP never opened my eyes to injustice etc. - most of their info is just pure propaganda. I don’t regret my time in the BNP because it set me on a road that I’m still on. Upon leaving the BNP you have to reset your compass. You need to revaluate your perceptions of the world. It was down to the people I met after the BNP that learned me so much.
I learned about real inequality and injustice from the many ex-Muslims I met. I learned about the true horror of racism, sexism and bigotry in Britain from reading true accounts of victims and how it can radicalise you. I met and talked to people from the anti-extremist think tank Quilliam. I read about peoples experiences like Ed Hussain and Maajid Nawaz. I read as much as I could from people like Nick Cohen and Sam Harris. I became aware of Ayan Hirsi Ali and devoured her books. I went on social media and started chatting to Muslim, ex-Muslims, left wingers, right wingers and more. Most people’s world views are formed by where they get there information. I was determined to from now on to get mine from as broad a spectrum as I could then perhaps I would get a better perspective as to what the hell is going on.
I have always been a huge reader of books for pleasure
and to learn. I never really bothered with the media more than mainstream news.
But look were getting my current affairs news from had gotten me?
I had gone from what I would have considered myself as being liberal, to joining the right wing in the form of the BNP.
I’ve explained how this occurred. I got angry at a very unjust system. I had gotten divorced and fought for years to get equal rights as a father. I refused to give into a system that automatically sides with the woman when it comes to children. I have to point out that I’m not one of these bleeding heart men who think men no longer have rights. That’s absolute rubbish; I’m referring just to the cases of inequality when it comes to a breakup and the woman can call the shots when it comes to the children- even if she is a terrible mother and has no maternal instinct whatsoever- as in my case.
And above all how to try and cut through the BS of modern
life and somehow try to discover the truth about what is actually going on
around the world without succumbing to the myriad of very popular conspiracy
theories out there.
The right wing have them, the left wing have them.
Muslims, Christians, patriot’s anti-patriots, racist’s, xenophobes, liberals,
socialists, fascists. It doesn’t matter which end of the spectrum you look at
whether its politics or social, there is a conspiracy theory or two to suit
you. But it has to be said that far left or far right they definitely have the
best of examples of weird views of the world.
So then’ why was I so angry?
Did this anger then manifest itself in other ways? Did I
become very distrusting of not just the courts and police but also the entire system?
Was it out to get me?Well no it wasn’t! I never turned into one of them people mentioned previously – a conspiracy theorist.
Someone who believes that everything that happens in society is some clandestine plot to put us into servitude and imprison us all, but I honestly can see how it can lure some people in!
Conspiracy theories are just that; theories. Most
actually make sense depending on which angle you look at them from. Whether its 9/11, Cuba, Iraq, or something
like the moon landings, JFK assassination or ET.
Once anger and distrust get a hold of you it’s sometimes
all you can do to not let it consume you. In fact it’s easier to let it consume
you than to fight it. To let it consume you is to give into the base feeling; to
know your right!
To fight it takes courage and an open mind and above all
some humility. To actually think ‘perhaps I may be wrong about something so I’m
going to research it first before jumping to conclusions’
A good example of how a theory can engulf you is this
one.
In my short time in the BNP I heard theory from a few
people that was so ridiculous I just dismissed it. However when I actually researched it online
I found it was actually true. Or so it initially seemed.
The story was that German MEPs were trying to get the
legal age for sex dropped to 4 year old right across Europe. I heard this story
of one guy who said it was to ‘placate the Muslims because Mohammed married a
nine year old and many Muslims wished to emulate him’.
Another version was that very senior MEPs were indeed paedophiles
and they wished to have their dirty way with kids.The final version was that it was a social experiment to destroy the family and destroy society.
Yes I know they all sound ridiculous but we are talking about the far right here.
This is why I researched them and Christ there’s loads of
entries online pertaining to this theory. It took me a while but I traced the
theory back through blog and website, forum and notice board, news reel and
news feed.
What did I find and did it scare me? Hell yes!
I found that there was no beginning to this theory. There
was absolutely no basis in truth. It was actually a self-perpetuating myth. The
more that people discussed it and promoted it the more valid and real it appeared.
There’s loads of this stuff on the internet.
It’s like that widely used quote that people now use to
make a point.
“Don’t believe everything you read on the internet “–
Abraham Lincoln.
So there is loads of misinformation out there, to sift
through and make sense of.
But as much as I tried it wasn’t easy and maybe some of
the time I got it wrong, but I think I managed a straight line if somewhat
meandering and shaky at times. I’ve lost friends along the way.
Some’ because when I joined the BNP they only saw that. It’s
as if they forgot about the person they knew before, they just judged for what
they thought I had become.
I think it was simple as this. When I was in the BNP
people I had known for years would all of a sudden think it was okay to start
sending me or telling me racist jokes. It was like 'hey I’m not racist but you
will find this funny'. I never quite understood how this worked.
So many times in company people would bring up the BNP.
They would do it as to patronise me or to look down their noses yet they were
always the ones who would bring it up. They would talk openly about the very
same things that concerned me they always had. Yet now it became a double edged
sword to attack me with. The conversation had gone from “I’m so sick of foreigners
in this country” “I’m so sick of Muslims taking over” “I’m so fed up with not
been listened to”
Now I was in the BNP the conversation had turned to your
so fed up with foreigners, with Muslims, with not been listened to. I could
never understand this and it did loose me a few friends. I ended up walking
away from them because I just couldn’t be bothered with silly little games. You
can only listen to people for so long using the words pakis, niggers and puffs
but at the same time condemning you for joining the BNP and accusing you of
being a racist!
Recently I watched a psychologist explain why whenever a
child is murdered that comes from a poor area that the people who protest and
throw things at the police van taking the person into court tend to belong to
the lower echelons of society. He explained that these people, these protestors
are at the bottom, there is no lower to drop. So when one of their own does a
heinous crime like this they actually then have the moral authority to look
down their nose and see that there is actually someone else below them.
Is this kind off what happened with people I knew? Pre
BNP people could talk openly about their concerns and believe me many of the
people I no longer speak to where right wing, were openly racist and were
little Englanders, but could it have been that deep down they never felt happy
about their views. Then because I had joined the BNP they could actually look
down their noses at me for my actions. I knew people who had casually stated
over the rears that Powell was right, that yeah get them all out, and how
whites were more superior. Yet now I was in the BNP I was the racist??
They now had someone to look down on.
Then of course there are the other friends I lost not
just during my time in the BNP but also after. Once you start to become
active….in anything I believe the mundane and pointless things that people
spend their time worrying about really start to grate on you.
I had always been a minimalist. Never did possessions.
Wasn’t interested in what car or motorbike I drove. I wasn’t bothered how big
my house was or what it looked like. But loads of people I knew did. That was
fine, I could ignore it; it never really bothered me. When someone talked about
the new car they were getting I would have absolutely no interest at all, would
let them say their piece then move on. But once you become politically or more
importantly- socially active-these conversations really become hard to
tolerate. The selfishness of humanity starts to manifest itself in a person
sitting over the dinner table at you. The ills of the world become even more
magnified as you have to listen –again- about work or the extension, new car
what we are eating and what celebrity bloody made it. Christ it becomes like a
dripping tap. Car-drip, house-drip drip, promotion or pay rise-drip drip drip,
Christ I’m drowning. You need to get away from it.
So I don’t regret the BNP Far from it. In fact if I had
never joined the BNP I would never have discovered as much as I have about
myself. God help me I may have still been in that same rut of doing the same
thing, with the same people in the same places until the day I die. In a way
the BNP freed me from that fate. Please don’t confuse that with pride. Christ I’m
ashamed I joined them. Ashamed I was so gullible but regret it, no.
Once the box has been opened, once you see what is wrong with the world and how unjust it is you can’t just close the lid again. You can’t unsee what you have you have seen. You can’t erase some injustice that you know exists. Please don’t misunderstand this statement. The BNP taught me nothing- well except about me. The BNP never opened my eyes to injustice etc. - most of their info is just pure propaganda. I don’t regret my time in the BNP because it set me on a road that I’m still on. Upon leaving the BNP you have to reset your compass. You need to revaluate your perceptions of the world. It was down to the people I met after the BNP that learned me so much.
I learned about real inequality and injustice from the many ex-Muslims I met. I learned about the true horror of racism, sexism and bigotry in Britain from reading true accounts of victims and how it can radicalise you. I met and talked to people from the anti-extremist think tank Quilliam. I read about peoples experiences like Ed Hussain and Maajid Nawaz. I read as much as I could from people like Nick Cohen and Sam Harris. I became aware of Ayan Hirsi Ali and devoured her books. I went on social media and started chatting to Muslim, ex-Muslims, left wingers, right wingers and more. Most people’s world views are formed by where they get there information. I was determined to from now on to get mine from as broad a spectrum as I could then perhaps I would get a better perspective as to what the hell is going on.
Now I was reading to discover truth. What was actually
going on with our world? Where does the myth end and the truth start.
I also learned that sometimes –not much though-the BNP
was actually telling the truth but they did it purely to push their racist
agenda.
But some stories were true. There was some racism against
white people. There were grooming gangs consisting mostly of Muslim men and
that local authorities where overlooking their horrendous crimes in fear of
being called racist.
But the most shocking thing I discovered was –yes there
is a huge problem with racism, sexism and bigotry in Britain. But most of it is
not coming from whites indigenous [again I don’t like using that word but it’s
all I can think of to make the point] it’s coming from within immigrant
communities. There are far more Muslims suffering at the hands of Muslims
because they are from a different ethnic background or the wrong sex. FGM
forced marriage, honour killings and backward views on how the world works are responsible
for horrible crimes on a daily basis in this country.
Sexism is rife, again its manifests itself to a
disproportionate extent in the immigrant communities. The same is true of
homophobia, transphobia and just about any other kind of bigotry’
We have made a huge mistake in this country and throughout
Europe and the mistake is multiculturalism.
We somehow acquired this cretinous, mind-set that who are
we to tell other people how to live. That all cultures and religions are equal
and all deserve equal respect. We allowed backward and regressive practices and
ideas to take route on the streets of the UK. We foolishly believed that we do
not have the right to tell new people to these islands how to live their lives.
We thought that who are we to push our culture onto them and make then adapt to
a British way of life.
It’s very true we have no right to tell people that they
have to adapt to British culture. This I do strongly believe. But we do have
the right in fact we have the moral obligation to insist that everyone adapts
to modernity. We should demand and then ensure that everyone leaves regressive
practices behind them. We should demand total equality religious, race, sex,
sexuality, and colour. If you cannot adjust to the modern world you should be
denied entry into it.
In short the one thing that has caused so many problems in
our society is multiculturalism.
Multiculturalism allows us to be tribal. It allows us to
stick to our own. It encourages division. The regressive left would have us
believe that it’s healthy that it’s good for community cohesion. Absolute
rubbish, the exact opposite happens. If you allow people to stick to their own
and never look outside their little enclave they won’t move away from what they
may consider normal but a civilised society considers barbaric or backward. And
likewise the communities around them build distrust, dislike and sometimes even
hatred because of perceptions then perpetuated from within their society and
within ours. They allow the -them and us mentally- to fester. We then end up
with groups like the EDL then counter movements like the Muslim Defence League.
Different sides of the same coin.
My journey from the BNP has taught me lot. I thank the
people who have helped me either directly by meeting and talking or indirectly
by their writings and lectures.
The BNP is nationalist, they are regressive. They believe
that in this modern world we can all live in our own little bubbles and the world
will know piece. Absolute rubbish!
My view now is and one I can’t imagine changing ever is
we need integration. The newly arrived family from Mogadishu needs help and the
desire to integrate into a modern society. The UK needs to integrate fully into
a European union. Not a European union that is foolishly trying to accommodate
far too many independent countries and all the cultural idiosyncrasies that
goes with each one.
We need a European union that is transparent, democratic
and WORKS. We need an n EU that speaks as one. We need a united states of
Europe, there I’ve said it.
Far too many people spend far too much time discussing
and debating ‘would we have been better without the EU’. To me this is like
discussing who would have won Ali or Tyson. We will never know. Perhaps if
everyone spent less time arguing what was going wrong and how to break it up
and used that time to build something to be proud of we may actually get
somewhere.
We need a Europe with the same currency, but a currency
that works because we are basically one entity. We need to forget about
history, flags, language. We need to build a modern Europe and demand that
everyone within it lives a modem life. I don’t mean consumerism I mean
adherence to natural law of all human beings being equal. This may sound
arrogant but I really believe that if anyone looks at the planet and its inhabitants
without the pre-set prejudices, likes and dislikes that we all develop in life or
have thrust upon because of tradition, culture and religion, everyone would
come to the same conclusion.
The world is dying, we are doing this. Our preoccupation
with mundane differences and petty squabbles is stopping us focussing all our
energies onto the main problems-climate change, over population and destroying
our resources for a ‘quick buck.
After all does it matter what language we speak or what
flag we fly or who beat who in what war when the last human being is gasping
for food water or breath. Will the last person alive really care what flag they
are using to keep warm
We need to stop focusing on our history and where we came
from and we need to put more emphasis on where we are going. Not as brits,
Muslims, French etc.-but as humans.
As someone recently said to me “Christ you’ve went full
liberal”
Yes I have and damned proud of the fact.
That- as they say- is that. End of blog
That- as they say- is that. End of blog
Tuesday, 16 June 2015
Its been a year
Yes it’s been a whole year-ish, since my last posting.
The BNPs nick Griffin was just about to loose his seat at the European
elections. Then several months later he lost his party, snatched off him by his
so called friends and colleagues.
I wish I could say that this just shows the nasty side of
this particular party but let’s be honest most political parties are the same. Some
parties even allow a guy who stabbed his own brother in the back to become
their leader.
The lust and craving for power bring out the worst in
people.
So the BNP aren’t unusual for ousting their one time
‘loved’ leader.
Griffin was replaced by one of his favourite
sub-ordinates, Adam Walker. Between
Clive Jefferson, Pat Harrington and himself they have finished of what griffin
started. The complete and utter destruction of the party.
They have destroyed brand BNP so much that in this recent
election Walker stood in the very place where there is immense anger at the
establishment because of the Muslim grooming gang scandal. Even with public
outrage so high they only managed a couple of hundred votes.
So why has the BNP disappeared and why will they never return?
In a word, well four actually -United Kingdom Independence
Party
The rise and popularity of UKIP has done more to damage
the BNP than Griffin/ Jefferson/Walker/Harrington ever could.
As much as I dislike what Farage’s lot stand for, I don’t
for one moment think that it’s a party of racist Nazis. That’s just bullshit
propaganda put about by the labour party and its attack dogs at the likes of
the UAF and Hope not hate. Incidentally when it comes to hope Not Hate and the
UAF it will be interesting to see what they are going to do now. They relied on
the NF and the BNP as a reason detre.
No more BNP no more NF.
Will they actually start attacking the very real problems
in our country? Problems that are causing more difficulty in creating community
cohesion than any other factor –religious fundamentalism.
I very much doubt it.
Yeah they have an occasional pop at Anjem Choudhry and
his band of illiterate morons but that’s it. There are more than Choudhry in
this country. But as we all know the likes of HnH only feel comfortable
attacking white racists, fascists or bigots. After all its only white people
who can be racist, fascist or bigot. Darker skinned people’s abhorrent views
are cultural; so tolerated.
But since the demise of the far right they will need to
justify their funding – from where ever the hell they get it- so who knows,
maybe cultural and religious fascists may get into their scopes yet.
Back to UKIP. As I say I don’t like the party. I hate its
backwards message on so many things, but not its voters.
Like many who voted BNP people who are voting UKIP are
not automatically racist.
Some are, some don’t like change, and some have rose
coloured glasses on about a Britain they remember – but never actually existed.
Some are disillusioned Tories, anti-Europe or have well founded concerns on
immigration [concerns I still have].
But many are disillusioned Labour voters. Farage has done a really good job of fooling
the working class into thinking he’s one of them!
Farage has as much in common with Joe/Josephine Average
as did Milliband or Clegg. But people don’t see this. They only seethe illusion
of a straight talking guy, pint in hand giving them answers to what is wrong
with the country.
A bit of truth heavily seeded with fantasy and urban myth
and when the media and the political establishment attack him it only serves
one purpose, it makes him even more attractive to the voter.
Exactly the same happened with Griffin. He was becoming
the man of the people. The downtrodden champion of the masses. Of course he had
an agenda, but many people when angry refuse to see what is in front
of them, Christ even I joined him and his party!
In so many respects Farage is cleverer than Griffin. Despite
public perception the BNP is not solely far right. I believe this is why the
Labour party and only the labour party put so much time and resources into
attacking the BNP. The liberals and the Tories never really bothered about the
BNP. The Tories because they knew the party when it came to social and economic
policies was left wing.
The liberals to their credit believed that people even
with distasteful views need taken on in debate and not just shouted down.
Don’t believe what the left wing attack dogs would have
you believe, the BNP was in many respects far left.
Their policies were to renationalise the energy companies,
public transport, healthcare even the banks. These are left wing and in my opinion
good policies.
These policies attracted the working class vote. Labour
was losing ground to the BNP, the conservatives or the lib/dems weren’t. Farage
has no left wing policies. UKIP is pure right wing Thatcherism, so for him to
have pulled the wool over the working class vote was –let’s be honest- masterful
work.
UKIP in this election got nearly 4 million votes. Is that
four million racists?
No of course not.
It was disillusioned Tories who want out of Europe. Disillusioned
Tories who saw a weak tory power in coalition with the libdems. And a huge
amount of disenfranchised people who are concerned about immigration-from all
classes and political parties.
Immigration! The very real concern that many people have.
Millions of people fed up with not having a say in what’s happening. They are
trying to live their lives whilst simultaneously suffering a constant barrage
from the media about immigrants. Neither wonder some people are worried. Left
wing orgs and even parties may be morally correct in defending these urban myths
that have dug into the British psyche but their arrogant sneering and looking
down their noses at real people with real concerns does nothing to show people
the real truth of what the real problems are within our country.
Their fanatical preoccupation with multic-culturalism and
their absolute refusal to see that this very same utopian societal view can
also be responsible for so much pain and distrust only serves to give credence
to the message espoused by people like Griffin and Farage
Farage uses exactly the same rhetoric as Griffin “Look at
the way they attack me, ask yourself why they won’t debate with me, it’s
because they know I’m right”
And because Joe public is too busy working and stressing
about bills or because they perhaps aren’t as well read on what the real issues
are or perhaps they are just plain bloody ignorant the left berates them, calls
them bigots or racists. As I’ve said all the way through this blog. It doesn’t
really matter what’s true and what isn’t, its perceptions that allow Griffin/Farage
to con the people.
So what now for nationalism?
I think it’s finished, well in England anyways. UKIP
aren’t nationalists they just sometimes use similar nationalist messages for
their own agenda.
Where will all the voters go?
UKIP is here to stay, no question. We now have two main
right wing parties. But where’s the left?
Labour are going to have to reinvent themselves-again.
The media has being full of the crap about the labour party lost because it
went left wing. My arse it did. Labour lost because no one knows what the hell
they are anymore.
When I was growing up Labour were the champions of
equality, human rights and fairness not just here at home but anywhere in the
world. Then along came the parasite that is Tony Blair and with him his small
group of Champaign socialists intent on inventing some kind of left wing
Thatcherism. If the labour party wants to grow again it needs to go back to its
roots. I mean to say look t the main players this time, more of the same.
That’s just my opinion and after all what do I know, I’m
just a voter, why would they care about what people like me think.
So we have no main left wing party and haven’t had for
quite a while.
Yes we have the greens. Good people, good party
structure, good left wing policies. Sadly though I don’t believe they have
broken through.
They suffer – and I mean this in this in the nicest
possible terms-from ideological delusions. They aren’t engaging with Mr and Mrs
Average. They come over as middle class and slightly batty even if they do have
the best intentions.
Millions of people are concerned about mass immigration, unemployment
and their own standard of living. The environment and the long range utopian
view which the greens have does not register with these voters.
The greens want to see a country that has no standing
military force [brilliant but only when we live in a world that has no enemies.
To just blindly think that everyone is nice will not end well for us if we had
no military].
Where everyone gets a citizens payment irrespective of
income and wealth [yeah sounds good in a world where the gap between he rich
and the poor has closed dramatically]
Where we have free movement over our borders [fantastic,
real freedom; but only when all countries standard of living and quality of
life is the same after all there isn’t exactly a mad rush to move to Africa
from the UK is there. Well except for the cretins who wish to join ISIS]
Where you can be a member of a fanatical organisation and
you won’t be doing anything illegal- unless you do something illegal! [To me
this is the worst thing that they had said]. We as a world need to start
condemning ideas. We need to condemn a person who has backward views and that
includes religion. And I mean all religions not just the safe one of
Christianity.
Take Islam for example, it needs condemned at every opportunity.
Not because it’s un-British or foreign but because its backwards, regressive
and belongs in the dark ages along with every other religion. But we only are allowed
to condemn the bearded mullahs espousing hate. We’re not supposed to criticise
the thousands of Muslims living in backwards, patriarchal, misogynist
communities up and down our country.
The greens believe in a country where we all consume
less, a lot less. Where all of our power is renewable. Absolutely brilliant,
agree with that one hundred percent.
The greens have said that all of these aforementioned
polices are long term aspirations and very honourable they are, but most people sadly don’t look that far into
the future. They look to tomorrow, next week and next month. They want to know
they will have somewhere to live, have a job and that their kids will have a future.
Sadly I don’t believe the greens delivered this message very well at all.
I wish everyone cared about animal welfare, environmental
issues and the planet. But it doesn’t sound a chord with voters, Christ I wish
people would wake up, stop being so shallow and consuming so much. I wish
people would care less about what kind of car they drive or how much their
house is worth; but sadly they don’t and we need a messenger that resonates
with Mr and Mrs Average and I’m afraid the greens aren’t it; at the moment.
So we have two right wing parties. A centre ground party
that has all but disappeared, and a decent left wing party [even if it does
have to engage more with average voters]
In short this last election was clear what happened.
Parties that gave distinct clear messages like the SNP, UKIP and the Tories
came out on top [why the parliamentary seats aren't divided fairer is a completely different argument] .
Parties that fluffed their message like Labour, lib/Dems and
the greens didn’t win the people over on mass.
But as I have already said ‘what do I know’ I’m just a
voter!
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